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Thank you for the insight It's definitely trigger barking I think, as attention seeking usually comes as taking shoes or biting furnitures I guess we're not that bad then Environnement control seems to work, as the other side of the yard is more "boring", he triggers less often on this side And the training seems ok-ish at least. We always get the first barking indicating the triggers, but he goes less and less in repetitive barking Excitement play some role here, higher the excitement, the less he wanting to stop, have to monitor that also Kind regards

Hellooo Little update on the "evening pen" I will definitely go with fomo... Since a few days after evening walk we try to not put him in pen and try watching something in the video as part of TV training and "let us eat quiet" training He gets a good chew and we can start He usually finishes the chew after we eat but before the end of the épisode and my gf take over the Loki control as she has seen the show already Last night after that, while he's often excited, he was just unbearable, even of me. Jumping once I seat, biting hands and feet if moving... If I tried to play fetch or wrestle, he would just jump all over me, even trying to mount and hump... We tried obedience like "stay" to calm him a little... I even lost patience and had réactions I didn't like (it has been a long time since I had one of those) In the end, it's my gf that had it "he's too much of a pain right now, it's late but he's going in the pen right now... This won't do" I was a bit reluctant because it was late already, and I thought now he may not need to sleep in the evening as he sleeps a lot in the day But she was right, he whined 20 seconds and settled. His behavior was like a cry for help saying "please let me nap, I need too, but I cant do it alone" I guess we will resolve to put again the evening nap, perhaps short, but it felt it's still needed, even if he looks more reluctant now Dog éducation is constant trials and adjustments I guess 😂

Hello, I'm restarting this post, as it would have a complete double We had our first neighborhood problem thanks to little Loki (it's more truely because we were dumb I have to admit) One night, Loki started some tantrum in the yard a bit late. Before bedtime, usually we chill outside while he calmy chase flies or other insects, and chill himself, chewing or beginning his night. At some point, I guess he saw or heard some critters in the fields around, and started some barking While he usually settles, and is calm at night, we tried the ignoring behavior, but it intensified... the more he continued, the more we were like "ok he will stop now" It went on, way too long, and way too late... so we try to shush him off by shouting "quiet ! quiet ! it's late"... I'm pretty sure it encouraged him even more He didn't stop until 11PM when we said, "ok we're doomed" and put him to sleep The day after, one of our neighbor (a friendly one who loves Loki) came to us, explaining yesterday was too much... for her, it's ok, she's understanding as she had dogs, but she told us someone else we didn't heared shouted something like "DAMNIT !!! MAKE IT STOP !!! NOW !" It was hot, so the windows were open and so.... So I found myself yesterday, being a mailman to deliver an excuse letter in all the houses in the neighborhood :) That being said, we now have started to seriously train barking at triggers as we still want to enjoy to yard at nights, and different global night management We first started with environment control : for now, the part where he can view the fields is forbidden at night. We switched to the road side, and he's now tied to the long leash in a restricted perimeter around us, where he can have access to a little part of the house + a little part of the yard with access to grass First question on this : he seemed "weird" about that. I guess it's understandable, as he has more restrictions than before, without really knowing why Still, we tried to ease into it, as we will be out chilling also in the same spot, and gave very good edible chew like ham bones Is there anything special to do ? or any special recommandations in case of change of routine in a "worse" way ? We went also on barking / trigger training, and our implementation is quite simple : when we hear a loud barking, we're coming with high value food, and calling "Loki !" or smacking sound as positive interrupter, and start treating when he looks at the trigger (dog / people passing by, birds, critters...) and remains calm question : is there a risk we reinforce "he barks => we come" which is counterproductive if it's attention seeking barking. If so, how should we proceed, as the triggers are coming randomly ? Is the implementation at least okay-ish to get some results ? It has becoming a neighborhood issue, so we definitely say "its ok for now, we will address this later" Thank you for your help

Hello If that can help, ours also had its share on the wall, it was most of the time related to insects or critters on the wall, or in the wall, more to walls themselves Increase of activity on the evening can concurs with that I'm sorry I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough to advise on your case But in ours, redirection was the most efficient : it was easier because it occurs during the evening session, so he didn't have too much time to focus on it, as we finished work, so then we were able to play with him, some physical and mental, then evening long walk, then nap in pen while we have dinner, then evening chill with an edible chew, a night walk if too excited, and it's bedtime Hope it will help though

Thank you for the insights From what you say, it seems we allowed too much that he's excited around her, and should we be less tolerant to any kind of hyper state around her As cute as he is, it would be important that your girlfriend act calm and use a calm tone of voice around him and follow the same rules you have established. If she must praise, it must be done in a lower tone, that doesn't cause excessive excitement. It would help to involve her in the training. Take turns training, side-by-side, you first ask for a sit, praise/reward then right afterward she does, then you ask for a down, then she does, etc. We try to as much as possible, but not on every aspect For example, we brush together, like one treating, one brushing, evening walks are together, but I do morning alone It's true we do not do obedience at the same time. Mostly me, and sometimes she does We pay attention to our tone. In the beginning, we were a bit at the "dominance" school, like big shouted "NO" in case of bad behavior, and other stuff I wish I didn't do, but now most of it calm, even when cutting the interaction : a firm but not shouted "no mister !" and walking away We are around in what you say, butI think we just wait a little too much and tolerate for long He would start to bite, to tug, she will try to remove the arm, he will go again, she would dodge, he would finally get it, tug with more strength, which would be the ending point ==> We will now not accept even the first tug For humping she would be chilling, he would come, start to paws on her, she would turn her back, or dodge a bit, he would get back, get the paws on, and the humping position ==> after the first paws, (in the case we could prevent it) if he doesn't respond to "paws on the ground", we will cut here also instead of getting another round of him trying Thank you for the help ! We'll implement that and see how it goes ! I sense we will do quite some trips in the cellar now (it's the "interaction-cutting room :))

haha the stories of your dogs, or your storytelling, or both (maybe you start an illustrated blog) always make me smile / laugh :D thank you for the insights, I guess I could try the blueberries thing occasionally then But we found like the best tool ever : we had roasted chicken last weekend, and with the corpse, we rince to eliminate all spices, and grease, and cooked a broth Half water, half broth, I never seen him drink that much :D :D And rinse a bit his kibble with that : never ate that fast either :D :D We tried not to do too much too avoid him being picky about "normal water" and "normal kibble" But it really worked fine, in less than 2 days, stools were soft again and he didn't display any pain / incomfort while in position

No this one is projector, this is the home cinema room / guest room / Loki's pen room :D I reconduct the experience today, he's not attacking, but not comfortable enough to stay in the room for long At least he manage to settle in another room even if I'm here watching something

Hello (again, I'm active tonight :)) I have a "health" question here At some point, I put some ice cubes in Loki's water bowl, to empty the ice cube box and make new ones, and to refresh his water He actually found fun to try to get them, had his full muzzle in the bowl, and I even noticed bubbles It appeared to me he may have breath in the water, and that didn't look very sane to me, so since then, I avoided putting things in the water However, lately, I read to help drink (I was looking for this because he had veryyyyyy hard stools, sorry for the TMI :D), you can put some blueberries in the water bowl I'm just a bit afraid he may try to get them also and breath water again So the question is : is it really water breathing ? Is it dangerous ? or dogs are able to manage themself ? Thank you

Hello I'm upping this thread again, as I have some questions about something with my gf As I mentioned already, Loki seems to have develop "another relationship" with her than with me He seems to look more for her, he cries when she leaves or when wakes up after me, he's always more expressive with her than with me, she has better "party" On the other hand, we have a little concern because he's more "rough" with her He would play bite stronger, even grabbing the arm and pulling it. He would try to jump on her more, even try some humping Those things he wouldn't with me. We notice it happens more when he's in a tired / overexcited state She tried ignoring, lamp post, stopping the interaction and going away, but still at some point, he would be excited again and go on with this kind of behavior It's like he knows I'm the one in charge, but she's more like a play companion It also remind me of a parenting scheme like "you don't mess with Dad", but "Mom is more nice, I'll be more clingy to her, but also more naughty" I guess she interacts a little less on a daily basis, as I do the morning session, and she goes more often to her office, so it may be more attention seeking directed to her Question is, what can we do to let him these behavior towards her ? I mean, we're ok if he has his preferences for this or for that, but with him growing, the biting and arm-tugging are less easy to take Should we do normal stuff like redirecting and preventing behavior as in the very beginning ? As he's not doing it with me, we're not sure the problem is to address biting or humping itself Should she just interact with him more ? Thank you

Thank you for the helpful insights I tried going to watch a video after the walk, and it worked not bad As you can see in the picture, at least he's settled : he's not in his bed, and still close to the screen / speakers, but he's not attacking anything, not barking in distress to the images I went safe on this one, and put some scientific YouTube videos (yes, I enjoy them, I'm that kind of a dork :D :D), so I guess there wasn't much trigger On the next one, there may have been some, but I guess it was too noisy, and he was tired, so he went to sleep in another room, I guess in the office We're nowhere near watching a whole movie with him around, but a video here and there, then an episode here and there, and maybe we'll get to the movie soon

Hello I'm not sure what I'm gonna ask is even a thing, but I wonder if there is something to do about dogs and videos like TV Loki's playpen is in our guest room, which is also the home cinema room One time we tried to watch a video in it with him around, and he started attacking the speakers or just staring at the screen We stopped, as he was clearly feeling incomfortable, and for us too it wasn't enjoyable, as we spent more time doing "Loki control" than enjoying our video My question is : is this something known in training ? Having a dog being able to let the TV (or other video device) run It's something we will want to do, as we both enjoy movies and tv shows, and also playing video games So we will gonna try to implement "watching video + treating" starting with short ones , like YouTube videos, and then training "on your mat" and "stay" while we watch but I'm really not sure what's the correct way for now we can enjoy here and there a little episode of something while he naps, but on another TV, but we'd prefer with the projector Thank you

I may go for 1/ and 3/ 1/ => seems relevant, as he do it with toys, but not with others.. so maybe he's not that fluent about the "get back", or some toys he'd prefer not give them back 2/ => he's trained to drop, but drop is not even the issue : sometimes he doesn't even come back to me. He start to me, then a few meters before, he dodges and go somewhere else 3/ => that could be the better one : sometimes, he would fetch 2 times, and the third he would look at him, like saying "seriously hooman ? you lose your ball twice, and I get it back to you, and you still loosing it... do an effort DogNameIt !" 4/ => not really I think, because once he get on a spot, and I come to him to get the toy or start to tug, he doesn't run away and make me chase him 5/ => That can be, and it relates with the 3/ for me 6/ => I'm not sure on this one, when I approach to get the toy, or start a tug, he doesn't become tense, or growl, or anything... I think I'm considered trusty given the object, because yesterday, he was chewing on a bone, and I could approach and pet him without him having any reaction I guess fetch is just not his thing... He'd rather go on walks and explore the world that running after the same toy over and over again so I guess in those case, touching / grabbing toys is ok ? when I touch / grab, it's not to tidy them, I would start a tug or fetch I never confiscate them. He would sometimes finish a play session alone by going away and chewing on some, and I tidy the ones he's not on I may have tidy some high value ones before to keep the rarity a source of joy for next time

Hello, I'm upping this subject again because I read on another post a question related to toys touching / grabbing I was wondering what this is about ? I mean, sometimes, we start a play of fetch, he does not get back to me, so I get to him, take the toy, and fetch again ? Was this perceive as stealing from him ? Same for tug : sometimes I win, but when I let him win, he sometimes goes on the side, I go to him, take the toy to redo a round of tug Is there special care to take about toys in play session ?

Hi I can hear that, and can feel the disappointment, as mine did that also : I had the same kind of episode when during a walk, he found a fresh chicken leg, didn't want to let go, or even walk again, and when I tried to take it away, he growled at me, showed teeth... That wasn't a nice experience for both of us The high value treat think works though : since then, during walk I keep normal value treats for little exercise, but also some beef live paste, which is like the highest value treat he can have, and he's always happy to trade a dirty tissue for one or two licks of the liver paste For the hard biting, could it be a lack of bite inhibition ? I had similar episodes with ours, but the biting was not "hard" : it was enough to make us understand that "it's not ok, i'm not comfortable right now" but never to the point to hurt us, and I guess this is due to lots of bite inhibition exercises and warnings Did he chew enough on human skin to understand what is the acceptable maximum strength ? I know not everyone is ok with letting dogs bite, even play-bite on humans, but I really think it's useful for controlling the strength the play growling shouldn't be a concern I think : ours often growls when playing tug, it's a way to say "look at that ! I'm fierce and mighty now" I'm sorry I can't share anything about growling to other dogs, as ours is always in play-mode with anyone, even the ones who growl at him one thing I can say though, is that any problem will come to an end when correctly taken care of. He may not be in a day, or 2, even in a week or 2, but at some point, with work and care, you will have this moment you will say "oh my God, this is happening" I wish you and your dog all the best, and to pass this difficult moment

Thank you for all the insights [the grabbing thing] No it's just being grabbed and carried around. He's totally ok with collar grabs. He is even really better with the harness (given we have some treats though :)) So we really don't think there is a medical thing involved But I guess he knows the schedule "evening walk = pen / nap just after", so he's relunctant if I call pen just after the walk Yesterday I let him go in the yard while I cooked, then called "to the pen" just before serving, and he went in, I closed, gave him toys and rewards, and closed, and called "good nap" He barked one time and then settled (he was obviously tired from the walk) He may have not liked it, but at least there was less unwanted behavior, like him snapping, or us chasing him around [the lure thing] This is really relevant We do not have "pen-only" thing. We usually give edible chews, which are the ones he can have outside while I have my morning coffee for exemple We tried to mix different things, but it seems he's often tired enough just to settle him and nap, once he knows he won't be out right now... he often doesn't finish the longer chews Problem is he's a smart dude, we do not show the treat, but I think he learned to know the noise of the fridge, or the "dog closet" : we'll try now to get the treat, do nothing for a little time, and then call "to the pen" I can go with the boundaries testing. Too hot => not now, it's mainly rainy these days. Not enough stimulation => not likely as "to the pen" usually comes after walks when he's tired. Confined too often => not likely, specially now that he's better settling around on his own, he isn't crated / penned in the morning as he knows now to sleep in the office without chewing everything. Timeouts => he doesn't get much of them : if he misbehave on us like too strong nipping or humping, we cut the interaction and go elsewhere. And if he's really over excited, it's usually because of tireness, so it's more like a forced nap than a timeout The more I look at it, specially with all the insights you give, I really see it more and more like a little fomo thing explained by what you said about the breed We'll continue training though to make sure it remains postive places for him, which I'm kinda sure it is as he sometimes goes in by himself

Thank you for the reply The more I try to look at the other way, the more I think it's that : - yesterday, I was in the living room, and he was on his towel in the same room. Then I went in the guest room, where there is his pen, he followed me in, went into the pen, and settle on his mat... The more I see it, the more I think he doesn't hate the pen, and it's not causing distress - today, after his walk, I thought he could settle with me in the desk (he did that the day before)... bad call, he went crazy on chewing everything... besides I had a conf call, and couldn't do any environment control... after my call he was still throwing a tantrum... so I called "to the pen", close, gave him the chew, closed windows and door, and went back to work. I called "good nap Loki" (I m not sure if I should have as the goal was for him to be contained, not specially napping), he barked 2 times, whined a bit, and settled in less than 2 minutes... At some point he has been triggered by a rooster hurling, and some horses passing by, and barked for a few minutes, and then settle again... I usually try to get on camera if he's lying on the side , or on the back, which means he's really sleeping (and I did, in about half an hour, he was on the side). I fear normal lying can be sadness / or depressing : can it be ? So yes, I'm getting more and more hope about the alone time, and as you said, Lapphound are really bound to their owner so I guess I should expect a bit of FOMO here and there. I'm the one that needs that training :) With little tap on our back in the sense that our crate / pen training may have not have been that bad, if doesn't seems in distress in it, and sometimes goes there by himself

Please share in video ! I smiled while reading, I think I'll really enjoy seeing it live :)

Hi No question here 🙂 just a little sharing : we try to implement the carpet game but with a towel as I have no carpet 🙂 I like the Come+stay+go which starting to be real good at home 🙂 https://youtu.be/l2LWN2c0r3w

I prefer to talk on this part in another message, so the distinction is more clear, as this post starting to get several things mixed in :) But I guess we can't have wins and victories everywhere : while the fences thing is definitely over, and the car is getting wayyyyyyy better (last vomit was several long trips ago \o/ ), his relunctance to go to the nap in pen in the evening is starting to be bothersome : this is the time we usually had to make dinner, and we used it also to have a little recess, to eat, and watch a little ep of some show (Criminal Minds actually, which is wayyyyy good :) :)) You already give me lots of insights and advices for that, and I'm really thankful, but I have some questions and concerns a bit more specific that may help finding how to cope with it the best : - yesterday, when back from the walk I called the "to the pen" cue, but he stood at the yard door. Before the schedule was walk ==> nap, he even went in by himself You told me that he may need to sleep less because of him being older, but the fact that he's not responding to a cue he did respond to before, can it be caused by him going teenager ? it looks like a flight think : "nop nop I don't want to go in there now, I'm better off in the yard" - I may have messed up here, but I try to grab him to put him there, and he had really avoidance moves, and even snapped at me for the first time... I really understood the message "I don't want to be grabbed to be put in" so I left him alone. But it's not just the relunctance of being grabbed for the pen... Being grabbed seems to have regressed, even for going out of the car. Should we re-train that ? if yes, how ? grabbing + treating, grabbing + treating + walking around + treating ? - is the fact that he snapped a form of aggression that I should really watch out ? on normal circumstances, he doesn't have any sense of aggressivity, he's playful and nice, and for me it was just a message like "please don't do that, I don't like it", like when he growled one time - You said "luring and closing" could backfire and it may be seen like a trap. But is asking for the cue "pen", then closing, then rewarding and go for our dinner is also a form of luring and trapping ?(for me luring is throwing a treat in, and closing behind him while he does not see because he's going for the treat) The downside for him would be being in longer than the treat, and maybe then use the 10 min rule to see if he settles - is this is also trapping, I'm not sure at all how we should proceed. To me it's not like he doesn't like the pen, of feels stressful in it, because as I mentioned in the last post, he goes in to search for spawning treats, or to get some toys. Besides I reinforce good things in the pen on a regular basis, like playing together inside, or doing obedience inside... To me it looks like a toddler behavior like "noooo i'm a grown up now ! naps are for babiiiieeesss" :) I have again lots of questions, but maybe having them a bit more detailed and specific, would be easier to address Thank in advance for your help

Wow, thank you for the link, it's all very detailed and precise Actually, from reading this, I'm starting to think I may be over dramatizing things, making the thing looks like big separation anxiety while it's just normal little FOMO because : - we don't have a departure ritual, so he doesn't have stress related to the door, or us taking keys and jackets - we have a camera in the pen, as it was the napping place, and usually, after whining for a few minutes, because he would prefer to be out, he would settle. We never sure if he's asleep as we can't see the eyes, but most of the time he's lied down - I'm not sure if he loves the crate / pen, but at least, we're sure he do not hate them. They're both always accessible, and it already happens that he chose himself to go in(more the crate as it's in the office, and while me / my gf work, he would come nap at our feet usually, but he sometimes goes in the crate without us telling him to) (for the pen it's usally more often to see if there are treats in, as I often put some high value treats in at random, just to show that it's a cool spot) I'm sure that if it was places of fear and distress for him, he wouldn't go in by himself - I was quite unsure, because it does not play alone in with the chews, and toys we keep in, but if he sleeps or just chill / lie down there, I guess who cares what he does in, if he's not showing signs of distress - we had the 10 minutes rule, taken from nurses for babies in maternity services : if the crying is more than 10 minutes, it's a real problem, and he would be taken out. If it less it's just "I'd rather be out" but a no distress settle. => he never broke this rule I'm sorry for the time usage, for something that may be me overreacting, and a bit afraid perhaps to let go while he would be able to cope with it more easily that I think Maybe it's actually me that need the training to put him in the pen, run short errands, get back and see that he's totally ok :) I think we'll try more of that, with monitoring of the camera to unsure he never goes above threshold

Hi Loki has this with some people It's excitation urination. it happens the most with our neighbor as she loves dogs, and she's always happy and excited to see him, so he also gets very happy and excited to see her I'm not sure it's something that can be corrected, in the sense that is not related to normal urination with the "need" of peeing. You may limit the source of the excitment, but it prevents postive interactions Maybe training impulse control could help, because with better impulse control there will be less excitment, thus less excitment peeing Hope that could help

Hi, little trick I saw somewhere, you can just add middle sized balls in the bowl just to slow her down Also better with kibble but should work if the food is in small enough chunks

Hello, Thank you for all the links that will help I guess it's not that bad of a clinginess for now : she have a bigger party in the morning, and he would whine and cry a bit when she leaves home for the office Also he would cry in front of her desk when she close the door for a conf call... but when she's out and I'm using the downstairs, he would also sleep at my feet, or in the crate which is in this room (we actually love when he does that, because it shows that he has no problem with the crate) If she's not there but I'm here, he gladly hangs around with me But actually, now we will have to work on leaving the house with him awake. We try to implement a lot of the "loving crate / pen" stuff : we're playing IN and OUT, closing the pen and going out for a few minutes, and in training it goes well But when we try using high time stuff like longer chews, he wouldn't stay on it too long, and would want to come out... whereas he can chew long while we're all in the living room, as he can see us... But soon we will have to go for our vaccines shot and will have to leave him alone, and also visit some friends for a few hours And as you mentioned, it is harder to time naps because he really seems to need less sleep during the day If we just go out while he's in the pen, giving him a chew, and just increasing time, is it ok ? I'm pretty sure he will whine after a few minutes but starting to implement he will see that it's ok and we will come back I have trouble picturing a scenario when he wouldn't whine and go full on his chew, even high value I guess this problem is also on us, because with home office, we didn't train much being alone in the house in the pen, and we're starting to see it as a little blocking

Thank you for that insights, it makes sense With my GF it's like the other way around. She never does the morning. I do most of the thing from early morning to early evening, but as she didn't have to do the morning and most of the day, she glady does the evening while I'm going to bed more early, or take charge when I'm fully busy with work or else Their session in the evening is more chilling in the yard And she's definitely calmer and less anxious and perfectionist than I am. So he may be more at ease with her as he may sense that the atmosphere around is more peaceful. But I'm getting better with that with time passing by :) I think the boss thing can also have a part, because I noticed some of the behavior he does not have with me : he never humps me, and very rarely goes for my feet now... I'm not sure if it's because he thinks "he's the boss, I shouldn't do that to him" whereas with her it's more "hey buddy / friend, let's play together" or just plain clinginess to her because of the other stuff mentioned The actual only fear with this for us is the possibility that this is preparing the road for a potential big separation anxiety But she will go back to her office several times a week now, and we may end up switching desks at home, so he gets used to her absence

Oh my gosh I Love his little mane. His hair is wild and that's adorable! Thanks ! He's like this popular guy in high school, wild hair and attitude :D :D Adrienne, thanks for all the details and explanations, it was supposed to be more of an update message, but you still gave priceless information It's called the "second teething stage" which takes place between the fourth and ninth month. During this time, pups may be more destructive than ever now since they have most of their permanent teeth in and have stronger jaws. [...] At five and a half months, he's at the flight stage, which coincides with the adolescent stage and that can impact recalls. I really think we start to be on teenage period : the new teething phase, the flight period you mentioned, a new will to go on the couches again just recently while it was something that was out of the picture lately... [humping explanation] For now, we let it in the neighborhood. Owners are really more at ease with that, and we let the dogs communicate to each others what is ok and what is not. It helped already, because he has been put down quite some time after trying too much mounting, and did it a little less after that It's in puppy school (not the same country, we live next to a border, and there was no puppy school with adequate language where we live) that people are less ok with letting the dogs handle the mounting themselves, so in that case, we just pull off when mounting, and let them play if more adequate I don't think it's stress of fear for Loki. He's always on the best mood to meet other dogs. Even when being put down by other older dogs, he still goes to them to play (a bit calmer after usually) I'm a bit on the same side as you are about it : let the dogs decide and communicate with each others On my GF, we really think it's more a case of attention seeking, specially lately as he seems to develop some clinginess on her, as I mentioned on the post [GF preference] Except for the obedience I do a bit more, I do not see something special I would have done. We brush him together, we equivalent on walks (morning is me, pre-bedtime is her, early evening is both). On major difference is my desk if upstairs, so during the afternoon he sees her the most, and naps in her desk, at her feet... so perhaps he develops the fact that she's more present, hence more trusty, hence she's the favorite... We're thinking switching desks, and perhaps alternating, like a week each, to avoid developing some side I say I'm jealous more for the joke, but the problem involved is it's starting to becoming clinginess. He seems to have more attention seeking behavior geared toward her, including chewing on her things (desk, desk chair, table chair...) sometimes I try to play with him to redirect the bad behavior, but he doesn't care, and would play fetch with her I may be wondering, maybe he sees her more, but want more "interactive" time with her : I'm doing most of the obdience, when feeding, I play with Kong, treat balls, do the Muffin game, so maybe he wants her to interact more with him and not just "be there with him while doing nothing relevant"... It seems to me that the time with her is more passive : he would nap in her desk, or would just be around in the garden pre-bedtime while she's managing thing... I also think the gender thing, and voice thing plays a role I tried hand feeding a bit lately to see, but it doesn't change anything, so I don't think he has a problem with me Thanks again for all the help and the detailed explanation